Frank Miller about superheroes & relationship
Superman’s nemesis is a human being too, though.
this guy really doesn’t get superman at all, does he
frank miller doesn’t understand a lot of things about a lot of things
Ugh. This is so wrong I can’t even begin. I just NO! STOP! Romance and Sex Are not like fighting. It’s not a conflict. It is the opposite of conflict. STOP IT YOU ARE WRONG!
This asshole understands nothing about Superman.
And if you think that Lois Lane can’t match Superman, you know nothing about either character.
I don’t like to ship bash. If you genuinely like Superman/Wonder Woman, that’s great. I’m sorry that your pairing finally being done in comics is so fucking shitty
But If your entire argument for Superman/Wonder Woman is “Wonder Woman is the only one physically strong enough for him!”, then 1. You don’t know shit about Superman 2. You don’t know shit about Lois Lane 3. You don’t know shit about Wonder Woman, either, because fuck, you haven’t even explained why she’d be interested in Superman romantically vs. platonically - you’ve just assumed she’s some passive recipient of Superman’s affections, 4. You don’t know shit about women in comics in general, because really, if we’re going by that logic, what makes Wonder Woman somehow a better match than Maxima, or Grace Choi (who isn’t even interested in romantic relationships with men, but fuck it, who cares about the woman’s interest as long as she’s physically strong enough to withstand the man, amirite?), or Starfire, etc.? 5. You know nothing about romance in general.
Like, that’s what pisses me off most about the Superman/Wonder Woman stuff. I wouldn’t ship it, but I’d respect it if people routinely gave reasons like “They know and respect each other,” “They admire each other, “etc., but the only fucking reasoning I ever see is “Superman can’t be with a woman who isn’t physically strong! Man of Steel, Women of Kleenex!” Diana is just assumed to be interested, Clark is reduced to a shallow asshole who cares about nothing but a woman’s attractiveness and physical strength, and Lois’s own strength is dismissed as not making her “worthy” of Superman. Nevermind that Lois’s strength, her tenacity, her determination, her unquenchable search for truth, her humanity - these are the reasons that Clark loves her.
If we’re even going to put in the Strength card, can we notice, that Wonderwoman ISN’T strong enough to handle Superman at full power. That NO ONE, except possibly ONE FEMALE, who I REALLY don’t want to mention, is strong enough. For starts, Superman can bench press the planet…the mother fucking earth…for days in a row…Earth. He could literally, toss earth, out of orbit, can literally break everything apart with his bare hands. Wonderwoman, in turn, might be able to life a very big building, Eiffel tower big, maybe more, but she could never lift an island… can we talk about how there’s NO COMPARISON!
Now I love Wonderwoman, please don’t say I don’t, and I know in a fight against the league, and in canon fights in the past DC, Dianna could face Clark on and even get a few good punches in there. But there’s STILL no comparison on a physical level. Wonderwoman can NOT handle Clark, NO ONE can, except for VERY few individuals…most being alien men (go figure) and the other …being his…. Lets just say there’s only one other Kryptonian female, and the gene pool isn’t that far apart- and that’s ALL. Period. Its like moving on from - pardon me Its about to get so vulgar- doing someone asstrong as a moth to doing someone as strong as a squirrel. THERE’S NO FUCKING WAY TO BREAK EITHER!
But you know what- screw sex. All DC comics are rated T at most so we never get to see the action anyways! There are ways to get around it, and you know what, they figured it out. But its still none of our FUCKING BUSINESS!
So no what, not even the sex makes sense, THAT argument is invalid, so really if that’s your ONLY reason for shipping the two, NOT EVEN THAT WORKS! So sorry, I also don’t mean to bash a ship, or Wonderwoman, or even Lois Lane, but this ship can not work if its only about sex..
That’s actually not true. Wonder Woman and Superman are on fairly comparable grounds in terms of fighting ability - while you’re right that Diana couldn’t move a planet by herself, her powers are magic-based, so the measure of her capabilities are a bit different. She is fully capable of both hurting Clark and taking punches from him. When Max Lord made Superman fight Diana, hallucinating that she was Doomsday and had just killed Lois, Diana was fully able to handle him. He broke her wrist, but she won that fight. So yes, Diana can absolutely handle Clark in a fight, and can take full-strength punches from him and keep on trucking. That’s just a shitty measure of romantic compatablity.